Pop'n 18 not booting past security. #338

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opened 2025-04-02 23:57:48 +03:00 by radianthero · 5 comments
radianthero commented 2025-04-02 23:57:48 +03:00 (Migrated from github.com)

The instructions on the popnhook1 is somewhat low in detail, so I'm having a hard time following the instructions. I have all of the prerecs that you showed

The 32-bit (x86) version of [Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Service Pack 1 Redistributable Package MFC Security Update](https://www.microsoft.com/en-sg/download/details.aspx?id=26999) The 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) versions of [Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable Packages for Visual Studio 2013](https://www.microsoft.com/en-sg/download/details.aspx?id=40784) The [DirectX 9 End-User Runtimes (June 2010)](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109)

I have a copy of pop'n18 that boots fine

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But I get this error when trying to boot up the game (I run the .bat as admin)

I did see https://github.com/djhackersdev/bemanitools/issues/259

But oddly enough, I still get this error despite using the older version that's reported to be working (43). Not sure if I missed a step or not, using a clean version.

The instructions on the popnhook1 is somewhat low in detail, so I'm having a hard time following the instructions. I have all of the prerecs that you showed `The 32-bit (x86) version of [Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Service Pack 1 Redistributable Package MFC Security Update](https://www.microsoft.com/en-sg/download/details.aspx?id=26999) The 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) versions of [Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable Packages for Visual Studio 2013](https://www.microsoft.com/en-sg/download/details.aspx?id=40784) The [DirectX 9 End-User Runtimes (June 2010)](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109)` I have a copy of pop'n18 that boots fine ![Image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/74a06c2d-c335-408a-91b1-c7ca6356d3f4) But I get this error when trying to boot up the game (I run the .bat as admin) I did see `https://github.com/djhackersdev/bemanitools/issues/259` But oddly enough, I still get this error despite using the older version that's reported to be working (43). Not sure if I missed a step or not, using a clean version.
radianthero commented 2025-04-02 23:59:45 +03:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Update: I took a closer look and saw that the error is actually different from what was posted before. I get that error when I use the older version, as said above. I tried the latest version, .48, I get a different error message, similar to the the #259 error

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Update: I took a closer look and saw that the error is actually different from what was posted before. I get that error when I use the older version, as said above. I tried the latest version, .48, I get a different error message, similar to the the #259 error ![Image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/31db3373-4287-407c-9de4-bef340c3f1f8)
radianthero commented 2025-04-03 01:08:34 +03:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Update again.

The game REALLY wants you to connect it online, I let popn18.exe through the firewall, and it finally passed all the checks (you can't add .bats to a firewall, it should probably be removed from the readme.

I'm using .43 still, and it boots just fine.

Update again. The game REALLY wants you to connect it online, I let `popn18.exe` through the firewall, and it finally passed all the checks (you can't add .bats to a firewall, it should probably be removed from the readme. I'm using .43 still, and it boots just fine.
icex2 commented 2025-04-06 23:11:10 +03:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Thanks for keeping this updated and sorry for the late reply.

The game REALLY wants you to connect it online

It might be that the default settings of the games force eamuse to be on which results in the game trying to connect on boot. This probably causes the issues when the firewall is blocking. Have you checked the operator menu if the the eamuse setting under network options is enabled?

I let popn18.exe through the firewall, and it finally passed all the checks (you can't add .bats to a firewall, it should probably be removed from the readme.

.bat files are just scripts that run a sequence of commands and not an actual executable. The firewall can only operate on executables, so you are correct about having to add popn18.exe to it to have it unblocked.

What's the specific section in the readme you are referring to here?

Thanks for keeping this updated and sorry for the late reply. > The game REALLY wants you to connect it online It might be that the default settings of the games force eamuse to be on which results in the game trying to connect on boot. This probably causes the issues when the firewall is blocking. Have you checked the operator menu if the the eamuse setting under network options is enabled? > I let popn18.exe through the firewall, and it finally passed all the checks (you can't add .bats to a firewall, it should probably be removed from the readme. .bat files are just scripts that run a sequence of commands and not an actual executable. The firewall can only operate on executables, so you are correct about having to add `popn18.exe` to it to have it unblocked. What's the specific section in the readme you are referring to here?
radianthero commented 2025-04-07 00:10:35 +03:00 (Migrated from github.com)

https://github.com/djhackersdev/bemanitools/blob/master/doc/game-error-codes.md

'5-1502-0000
Description
BACKUP CHECK ERROR

Known occurances
Pop'n'Music 21 Sunny Park
How to fix
Give access to gamestart.bat and launcher.exe from Windows Firewall if enabled.
Make sure no antivirus software firewall is blocking access to those files.
Start gamestart.bat as Administrator.'

This page was kinda hard to find, it should probably be linked on the main readme, or the game pages readme.

Its a small detail to bring up, but it could be updated for the popn games supported.

I haven't checked the cabinet settings much, outside of free play. Didn't think there was an emuse setting, but there was a network setting.

I can try to take a look at the popn read me to edit it a bit.

https://github.com/djhackersdev/bemanitools/blob/master/doc/game-error-codes.md '5-1502-0000 Description BACKUP CHECK ERROR Known occurances Pop'n'Music 21 Sunny Park How to fix Give access to gamestart.bat and launcher.exe from Windows Firewall if enabled. Make sure no antivirus software firewall is blocking access to those files. Start gamestart.bat as Administrator.' This page was kinda hard to find, it should probably be linked on the main readme, or the game pages readme. Its a small detail to bring up, but it could be updated for the popn games supported. I haven't checked the cabinet settings much, outside of free play. Didn't think there was an emuse setting, but there was a network setting. I can try to take a look at the popn read me to edit it a bit.
radianthero commented 2025-04-07 02:17:43 +03:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Update: Checked the setting.

Under the network tab, there's a section e amusement, turning it off skips the error message about not having a proper connection, thus booting into the game faster.

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Turning off the firewall allows it to boot into the game normally, thus it can be removed without issue.

However, you can't enter the service menu UNTIL it goes past all the checks (this includes the checking for networking)

Maybe when the error message pops up, you can enter the service menu, never tried.

But the fix is to go through the firewall, use an older version of popnhook1, and after changing the settings, you can remove the firewall.

Update: Checked the setting. Under the network tab, there's a section e amusement, turning it off skips the error message about not having a proper connection, thus booting into the game faster. ![Image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/3fe6be09-d74e-4c67-b011-17fb3876e811) ![Image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/4c85e4fa-a473-4aac-9ef5-7d9d214dbdd8) Turning off the firewall allows it to boot into the game normally, thus it can be removed without issue. However, you can't enter the service menu UNTIL it goes past all the checks (this includes the checking for networking) Maybe when the error message pops up, you can enter the service menu, never tried. But the fix is to go through the firewall, use an older version of popnhook1, and after changing the settings, you can remove the firewall.
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Reference: Max/djhackersdev_bemanitools#338